May 07

Devil TemptingEternal Security is the teaching that once you are truly saved, you can’t lose your salvation. This teaching is also referred to as the “Perseverance of the Saints” — the ‘P’ in Calvin’s TULIP — or “Once Saved-Always Saved”.

Some that teach this doctrine would hold if you gave your heart to Jesus at an early age and then later turned from God, you would still go to heaven when you die: Even if you lived a wicked and sinful life and didn’t even believe there was a God.

Others take a more conservative view and would hold that while you can’t lose your salvation, if you forsook Christ and never came back to him you were never saved in the first place.

But regardless of which position of Eternal Security is taken, all Eternal Security teachers hold that once you are truly saved, you can’t spiritually die.

The Bible refers to spiritual death in a number of scriptures, and death in these scriptures refers to spiritual separation from God. I have covered this in an article Spiritual Death, which you may want to refer to.

I would hold that the Bible teaches that if a Christian willfully sins, they will spiritually die — sin will cause separation from God. If this sin is not repented of, and the person dies in this state, they will be lost.

Now to the title of this article — who was the First Eternal Security Teacher in the Bible? In Geneses 3:3 we find the serpent teaching this very doctrine to Eve. “And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die.”

Satan told Eve that she could sin and that she would not experience spiritual death or spiritual separation from God — “Ye shall not surely die.”

This was a lie, as God had said, “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” (Gen 2:17); and God’s word didn’t fail. Eve ate and “in the day” she ate, she died.

If you have been told that a Christian can sin and not experience spiritual death, don’t believe it.

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6 Responses to “The First Eternal Security Teacher in the Bible”

  1. 1. dennis wells Says:

    Good article Bob. The fine point is that if as a believer I am killed while driving my car too fast in winter conditions, is that a sin that will lead to death. I have sined because I knew better and wilfully did wrong.

  2. 2. Bob Mutch Says:

    Hi Dennis,

    While I personally do my best to keep the speed limit and obey traffic laws (I have not always done this in my Christian walk) I wouldn’t consider it sin to speed 20km or so over the speed limit.

    There are countless traffic laws that we all break from time to time and some of them we may not even know about. Parking out of the parking markers, driving with tires below the wear indicator bars, not putting your seat belt on as soon as you start driving, and the list goes on.

    If we decide that we must at all times keep ever rule and law of man and perhaps further that we must not be willfully ignorant of these laws and we need to find them all out we will quickly find ourselves in bondage.

    Further if we count it sin every time we literally don’t do some thing we know we should do we will be sinning many times a day. We know we should take out the garbage on garbage day but perhaps we get to busy. We know we shouldn’t be late for church meeting but some times we are, and again the list goes on.

    When we look at the context of Jam 4:17 “to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin”, it is after instructions have been given to not speaking evil of a brother and to not presumptuously make life plans with out including God in them.

    I don’t think this applies to knowing that you should call you brothers and sisters on there birthdays and that if you know you should do that and don’t it is sin.

    We need to take our definition of sin and make sure it fits the Bible. If not doing all the things we know we need to do, like my above examples, is sin, then we are all habitual sinners. If this is the case according to 1 John we are all of the devil.

    So back to your question. If you are speeding 10km in winter conditions because you are in a hurry, you are thinking I probably should slow down, and then you get in an accident and get killed are you lost — of course not.

    While I don’t think we should disregard the law and set a bad example by breaking the laws of the land we also don’t want to get into bondage by trying to know every law and making sure we don’t break any of them.

  3. 3. dennis wells Says:

    I guess that is why I recognize my ‘total depravity’ and rely on God’s grace for my salvation not keeping a set of man made rules.
    By the way, I liked your questioning about men wearing black and white. We really do put dress as a requirement for our looking proper too often.

  4. 4. Bob Mutch Says:

    Hi Dennis,

    Total depravity as a doctrine deals with unbelievers total inability to come to Christ without God drawing and enabling them by the Spirit of God. An unbeliever is totally depraved to the degree if God doesn’t draw them they will never come to Christ.

    Aside from doctrine depraved is defined as “corrupt, wicked, or perverted.”

    As Christians the Bible teaches that we are not corrupt, wicked, or perverted totally or otherwise but that we are a “new creature” (2Cor 5:17), “free from sin” (Rom 6:18), “free from the law of sin and death” (Rom 8:2), and have a “good conscience toward God” (1Pet 3:21).

    While no one can rely on the keeping of any commandments, God-made or man-made, for salvation, as Christians we want to hold a balance between faith and works.

    At the same time that the Bible teaches against works that product salvation it does teach in a faith that WILL produce good works and keep the commandments of God.

    One of the commandments of God is to “be subject unto the higher powers” (Rom 13:1), “to obey magistrates” (tit 3:1), and to “submit yourselves to every ordinance of man” (1Pet 2:13).

    A Christian that takes the Bible serious will know these scriptures. While they will quickly “obey God rather than men” (Act 5:29), they will be mindful of the laws of the land. They know that when they submit to the ordinances of man, with this well doing they will “put to silence the ignorance of foolish men” (1Pet 2:15) who will try to include you with them as sinners because you break the laws of the land.

    As to your comments on clothing I am moving toward the idea of wearing one style of clothing at all times. As the newer clothes get wore it can be moved into work clothes.

    God is concerned about modesty not about us suiting up in “costly garments” (1Tim 2:0 NASB) that we spend $500 or more on.

  5. 5. dennis wells Says:

    Hi Bob
    Clothing is a bit issue in a lot of churches. On PEI, most of us like to ‘dress down’ all the time. Dressing modestly is the key here eh. Fortunately we do not have to speek to people who choose to dress ‘provocatively’ in our worship but I see it all the time when going to others churches. I guess we should realize God is still calling people out of this world and they feel comfortable enough to come as they are to be under the sound of the gospel.

  6. 6. Bob Mutch Says:

    HI Dennis,

    I agree we should accept people into the congregation as they come but I do think they should at least come up to McDonald’s standard of no shirt no shoes no service.

    I lean toward the congregation being a hospital for those that are sin sick and not a closed family gathering for the saved only.

    At the same time I would hold that not only the congregation leadership but those that are spiritual are responsible to instruction all visitors whether they are professing salvation or not.

    Repeat visitors need to be instructed in a non-judgmental way concerning godly sorrow, repentance, forsaking of sin, and what the fruit of true Bible conversation is. Whether this is done over the pulpit, in a visitors Sunday school class, or one-on-one, it must be done in a prayerful and careful manner.

    We also must be faithful to those who are new among us that profess salvation but lack understanding of the Bible standard of modesty. While I don’t feel it is best to ask them to measure up to the standard of a mature Christian (it’s always better for the Lord to show them the standard), we do need to instruction both the brothers and the sisters to dress modest.

    We must explain that dressing in a way that will draw the attention of the opposite gender can cause others to stumble and sin. We can provide them with the minimum dress standard of the congregation and ask them in consideration of the weak members that it would be charitable for them to at least hold to the minimum dress standard when they attend meetings.

    Asking people that are starting to attend regularly to conduct themselves in a way that will not cause those that are weak to stumble is going to be received easier than by confronting people directly concerning their ignorance of the Word and their pride which is the root of immodest.

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